this $4 trillion savings plan that would raise the debt ceiling and so forth, but now boehner is having to cover his flank, and try to regain control of his caucus. it's very clear. >> you covered this. who's calling the shots? who is meeting behind the doors telling boehner, no, no, you can't have a grand deal. no, no. you can't talk revenues. no, no, come back and rewrite, rewrite, rewrite and keep coming back? >> my opinion, eric cantor, i think is working in the interests of -- >> who is he bowing to? >> well, he's in touch with the tea party factions. he's in touch with the members on the floor -- >> kevin mccarthy and a whole bunch of them 1234 >> kevin mccarthy is somebody boehner goes to and i think boehner and kevin mccarthy is one of the ones who told boehner, look, i don't have the books. you don't have the votes, and you're about to lose your caucus. >> so this is a strange situation. i want to look now, and, ron, right into this right now.